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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/12/02/dear-foolish-blackness-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-3222</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And thank you, Anne, for not being a drive-by troll and for coming back to read my response to your concerns. Of course, knowing that you came from Shakesville should&#039;ve clued me in to that. I&#039;m too cynical at times; I admit it. 

I do want to say, though, that I get where you&#039;re coming from, even if I don&#039;t think we&#039;re there yet. So, I hope you come back and share more of your ideas. Contrary to what some of the drive-by trolls would have you believe, this is a space for discussion and learning. There&#039;s a lot of learning to be done on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thank you, Anne, for not being a drive-by troll and for coming back to read my response to your concerns. Of course, knowing that you came from Shakesville should&#8217;ve clued me in to that. I&#8217;m too cynical at times; I admit it. </p>
<p>I do want to say, though, that I get where you&#8217;re coming from, even if I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re there yet. So, I hope you come back and share more of your ideas. Contrary to what some of the drive-by trolls would have you believe, this is a space for discussion and learning. There&#8217;s a lot of learning to be done on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/12/02/dear-foolish-blackness-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-3219</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,
Thanks for the additional explanation. The bit about divorcing him from the black community makes a lot of sense.
Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,<br />
Thanks for the additional explanation. The bit about divorcing him from the black community makes a lot of sense.<br />
Anne</p>
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		<title>By: RhondaCoca</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/12/02/dear-foolish-blackness-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-3208</link>
		<dc:creator>RhondaCoca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot get over it. Why are so many people ignorant to the fact that the vast majority of &quot;blacks&quot; in the Western hemisphere are of mixed race. In a post racial society, being African American or Afro-Caribbean will no longer be seen as monlithic or negative. 

I from the Caribbean, if I used Maria Arana&#039;s logic as to what is and is not black then I along with most of the &quot;blacks&quot; that I know are not black. However, we know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot get over it. Why are so many people ignorant to the fact that the vast majority of &#8220;blacks&#8221; in the Western hemisphere are of mixed race. In a post racial society, being African American or Afro-Caribbean will no longer be seen as monlithic or negative. </p>
<p>I from the Caribbean, if I used Maria Arana&#8217;s logic as to what is and is not black then I along with most of the &#8220;blacks&#8221; that I know are not black. However, we know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/12/02/dear-foolish-blackness-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-3200</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a multi-racial young adult, I thought it was pretty cool that here was someone else that didn&#039;t fit in people&#039;s little boxes.  I like seeing him as biracial because it gives me hope that someday I&#039;ll be able to share an identity with my grandfathers.

In demanding sole claim to him as an icon you are denying the connection that all the kids growing up a different color than their parents.  Are there horrible, and seductive, racist messages in some of the statements you attribute to anyone who dares to call him &quot;biracial&quot;?  Yes.  But that doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s not, and it doesn&#039;t mean everyone who refers to him that way is thinking all those things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a multi-racial young adult, I thought it was pretty cool that here was someone else that didn&#8217;t fit in people&#8217;s little boxes.  I like seeing him as biracial because it gives me hope that someday I&#8217;ll be able to share an identity with my grandfathers.</p>
<p>In demanding sole claim to him as an icon you are denying the connection that all the kids growing up a different color than their parents.  Are there horrible, and seductive, racist messages in some of the statements you attribute to anyone who dares to call him &#8220;biracial&#8221;?  Yes.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s not, and it doesn&#8217;t mean everyone who refers to him that way is thinking all those things.</p>
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		<title>By: CassieC</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/12/02/dear-foolish-blackness-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-3177</link>
		<dc:creator>CassieC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing that. It&#039;s so obvious it must have been painful to write it, but someone has to be standing up for obvious truth in America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing that. It&#8217;s so obvious it must have been painful to write it, but someone has to be standing up for obvious truth in America!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/12/02/dear-foolish-blackness-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-3176</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anne: Hi, Anne. Thanks for stopping by. 

Ok, so here&#039;s the thing for me. NO black people fit into a two- or three-tone United States. In fact, NO people period fit into those labels. I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re familiar with the blog Jack and Jill Politics, but it turns out there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/barack-obama-not-black/&quot;&gt;a similar post to mine&lt;/a&gt; there about the same article. Here&#039;s a relevant quotation from the piece which I think adequately sums up why this post-racial nonsense irks so many of us PoC. 

&quot;When White folks claim bi-racial Pookey that just robbed the liquor store and shot 3 people, then I’ll know it’s not just about trying to divorce Obama from the Black community.&quot;

The only thing I&#039;d add is that when &quot;post/multi-racial&quot; people also start claiming &quot;Pookey,&quot; then I might start re-thinking my objections. But it doesn&#039;t work that way. The only reason Obama gets to fit into the post-racial narrative is because he was victorious and we all know his background. Like I said, I&#039;m lighter than or at least as light as Obama, and NO ONE is going around proclaiming me a testament to the post-racial world because I went to an Ivy League school. I&#039;m black. To everyone I meet. 

And Sokari is right: black folks are often guilty of that shit too.

We, quite simply, are not there yet. 

After reading the post at J&amp;J, I thought that maybe I got it wrong. It&#039;s not so much about maintaining white privilege (male or otherwise; and yes, there are many people of color actively working to maintain white privilege), but about &quot;divorcing&quot; Obama from the black community, a community that he IDENTIFIES with, by the way. But really, that&#039;s half-a-dozen of one or six of the other. 

So no. I don&#039;t buy any of this &quot;post-racial&quot; nonsense. It rings so false to the reality that I and the people I know live that I&#039;m just not willing to do anything but call it the bullshit that it appear to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anne: Hi, Anne. Thanks for stopping by. </p>
<p>Ok, so here&#8217;s the thing for me. NO black people fit into a two- or three-tone United States. In fact, NO people period fit into those labels. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re familiar with the blog Jack and Jill Politics, but it turns out there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/barack-obama-not-black/">a similar post to mine</a> there about the same article. Here&#8217;s a relevant quotation from the piece which I think adequately sums up why this post-racial nonsense irks so many of us PoC. </p>
<p>&#8220;When White folks claim bi-racial Pookey that just robbed the liquor store and shot 3 people, then I’ll know it’s not just about trying to divorce Obama from the Black community.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;d add is that when &#8220;post/multi-racial&#8221; people also start claiming &#8220;Pookey,&#8221; then I might start re-thinking my objections. But it doesn&#8217;t work that way. The only reason Obama gets to fit into the post-racial narrative is because he was victorious and we all know his background. Like I said, I&#8217;m lighter than or at least as light as Obama, and NO ONE is going around proclaiming me a testament to the post-racial world because I went to an Ivy League school. I&#8217;m black. To everyone I meet. </p>
<p>And Sokari is right: black folks are often guilty of that shit too.</p>
<p>We, quite simply, are not there yet. </p>
<p>After reading the post at J&#038;J, I thought that maybe I got it wrong. It&#8217;s not so much about maintaining white privilege (male or otherwise; and yes, there are many people of color actively working to maintain white privilege), but about &#8220;divorcing&#8221; Obama from the black community, a community that he IDENTIFIES with, by the way. But really, that&#8217;s half-a-dozen of one or six of the other. </p>
<p>So no. I don&#8217;t buy any of this &#8220;post-racial&#8221; nonsense. It rings so false to the reality that I and the people I know live that I&#8217;m just not willing to do anything but call it the bullshit that it appear to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Siobhan the Not Very Evil: LOL! Too funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Siobhan the Not Very Evil: LOL! Too funny!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I came here from Shakesville. I read Maria Arana&#039;s WaPo article on sunday, and it did not at all strike me as trying to maintain the privileged position of white men. It still doesn&#039;t. Arana argues for a post-racial label-free world because people like her don&#039;t fit into a two-or-three-tone America. She&#039;s just taking five minutes to proclaim Obama&#039;s victory to be a victory for multiracial people and to be a proud and uppity mixed race person. Why begrudge her that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I came here from Shakesville. I read Maria Arana&#8217;s WaPo article on sunday, and it did not at all strike me as trying to maintain the privileged position of white men. It still doesn&#8217;t. Arana argues for a post-racial label-free world because people like her don&#8217;t fit into a two-or-three-tone America. She&#8217;s just taking five minutes to proclaim Obama&#8217;s victory to be a victory for multiracial people and to be a proud and uppity mixed race person. Why begrudge her that?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Honestly, his blackness doesn’t matter, and neither does his whiteness. It’s his 1/8 IRISHNESS that’s important!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

O&#039;Bama in 2012!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Honestly, his blackness doesn’t matter, and neither does his whiteness. It’s his 1/8 IRISHNESS that’s important!</p></blockquote>
<p>O&#8217;Bama in 2012!</p>
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		<title>By: Siobhan the Not Very Evil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siobhan the Not Very Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, his blackness doesn&#039;t matter, and neither does his whiteness.  It&#039;s his 1/8 IRISHNESS that&#039;s important!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, his blackness doesn&#8217;t matter, and neither does his whiteness.  It&#8217;s his 1/8 IRISHNESS that&#8217;s important!</p>
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