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	<title>Comments on: We Are Not Monolith</title>
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		<title>By: Terrance Heath</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/11/07/we-are-not-monolith/comment-page-1/#comment-2972</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrance Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my part, as a black gay man who has experienced and been hurt by homophobia from my own people more than I care to remember, I have about as much anger as some of the people who are protesting in the wake of Proposition 8&#039;s passage. 

The question is: How to deal with homophobia where it obviously does exist in black communities, and whose responsibility is it?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Terrance Heath &#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/republicoft/HHrt/~3/444787394/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Their Own Receive Them Not&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part, as a black gay man who has experienced and been hurt by homophobia from my own people more than I care to remember, I have about as much anger as some of the people who are protesting in the wake of Proposition 8&#8217;s passage. </p>
<p>The question is: How to deal with homophobia where it obviously does exist in black communities, and whose responsibility is it?</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Terrance Heath &#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/republicoft/HHrt/~3/444787394/" >Their Own Receive Them Not</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Clarke</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/11/07/we-are-not-monolith/comment-page-1/#comment-2971</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s especially galling about the scapegoating is that with the current political realities in place in California, Prop 8 did not have to pass. The No on 8 campaign was lackluster, half-hearted, turned away volunteers and didn&#039;t even motivate the base.

There was 49% turnout in San Francisco County on Tuesday. If Prop 8 opponents had done even a little work to energize that base, that&#039;d have put them halfway to beating Tuesday&#039;s vote on 8.

The vote totals among African-Americans, in other words, may well be an artifact of No on 8 folks failing to 1) GOTV and 2) educate people about the lies spread by Yes on 8 folks. 

Don&#039;t know whether you saw this related post of mine, K, but I think you might find it of interest: http://faultline.org/index.php/site/item/on_centrism/

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chris Clarke &#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://faultline.org/index.php/site/lftd/stoip_bushs_end_run_around_nuclear_waste_safety/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Letter From The Desert: Stoip Bush’s End Run Around Nuclear Waste Safety&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s especially galling about the scapegoating is that with the current political realities in place in California, Prop 8 did not have to pass. The No on 8 campaign was lackluster, half-hearted, turned away volunteers and didn&#8217;t even motivate the base.</p>
<p>There was 49% turnout in San Francisco County on Tuesday. If Prop 8 opponents had done even a little work to energize that base, that&#8217;d have put them halfway to beating Tuesday&#8217;s vote on 8.</p>
<p>The vote totals among African-Americans, in other words, may well be an artifact of No on 8 folks failing to 1) GOTV and 2) educate people about the lies spread by Yes on 8 folks. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know whether you saw this related post of mine, K, but I think you might find it of interest: <a href="http://faultline.org/index.php/site/item/on_centrism/" >http://faultline.org/index.php/site/item/on_centrism/</a></p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Chris Clarke &#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://faultline.org/index.php/site/lftd/stoip_bushs_end_run_around_nuclear_waste_safety/" >Letter From The Desert: Stoip Bush’s End Run Around Nuclear Waste Safety</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Rosenberg</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/11/07/we-are-not-monolith/comment-page-1/#comment-2970</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unfair to blame &quot;the black community&quot; for the passage of Prop 8, just as it&#039;s pretty much always unfair to paint blacks as a monolith. Some blacks voted for it, and some voted against it; we can say the same about any single demographic group.

That said, I think it&#039;s particularly frustrating to see so many black people, who have battled for civil rights for centuries, vote against civil rights for others.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jeff Rosenberg &#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TCDailyLiberal/~3/444348630/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happy to pay for a better Minnesota&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unfair to blame &#8220;the black community&#8221; for the passage of Prop 8, just as it&#8217;s pretty much always unfair to paint blacks as a monolith. Some blacks voted for it, and some voted against it; we can say the same about any single demographic group.</p>
<p>That said, I think it&#8217;s particularly frustrating to see so many black people, who have battled for civil rights for centuries, vote against civil rights for others.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Jeff Rosenberg &#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TCDailyLiberal/~3/444348630/" >Happy to pay for a better Minnesota</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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