Comments on: Quotation of the Day http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/26/quotation-of-the-day/ Gently, but with undeniable will... Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:32:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: guess http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/26/quotation-of-the-day/#comment-2052 guess Thu, 01 May 2008 03:18:03 +0000 http://slanttruth.com/?p=212#comment-2052 gary - no. i remember once pointing out to you on the old pulp list that abusers often say they're sorry. they abuse the other, then they say they're sorry, do all kinds of stuff to 'prove it' and then abuse the other person again. if i were going to get object relations freudian theory on it, i'd say that people who perform that sort of an apology are mired in guilt -- but not shame. i posted an excerpt about it once, http://blog.pulpculture.org/2005/11/01/its-a-shame/ not that anyone is an abuser in any of this, but that, according to freudian theory, extreme cases illuminate what all of us go through on a less extreme level. gary - no. i remember once pointing out to you on the old pulp list that abusers often say they’re sorry. they abuse the other, then they say they’re sorry, do all kinds of stuff to ‘prove it’ and then abuse the other person again. if i were going to get object relations freudian theory on it, i’d say that people who perform that sort of an apology are mired in guilt — but not shame.

i posted an excerpt about it once, http://blog.pulpculture.org/2005/11/01/its-a-shame/

not that anyone is an abuser in any of this, but that, according to freudian theory, extreme cases illuminate what all of us go through on a less extreme level.

]]> By: Kevin http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/26/quotation-of-the-day/#comment-2045 Kevin Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:04:21 +0000 http://slanttruth.com/?p=212#comment-2045 I agree that an authentic apology is an authentic recognition of the other, but I question whether one can be a revision of a past circumstance. Rather it is a recognition of a past circumstance coupled with authentic remorse. Implicit in that remorse should be the promise to not revisit the past circumstance. And we really do need to hook up. As soon as I get my shit together, we need to make plans to do that. I agree that an authentic apology is an authentic recognition of the other, but I question whether one can be a revision of a past circumstance. Rather it is a recognition of a past circumstance coupled with authentic remorse. Implicit in that remorse should be the promise to not revisit the past circumstance.

And we really do need to hook up. As soon as I get my shit together, we need to make plans to do that.

]]> By: gary http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/26/quotation-of-the-day/#comment-2040 gary Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:10:23 +0000 http://slanttruth.com/?p=212#comment-2040 isn't an authentic apology an authentic recognition of the other? if we mean what we say an apology is an explicit YES, not a new promise but a revision of a past circumstance. RE VISE and CONsent isn’t an authentic apology an authentic recognition of the other? if we mean what we say an apology is an explicit YES, not a new promise but a revision of a past circumstance.

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