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	<title>Comments on: When I Talk about The War on People of Color for Profit&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/25/when-i-talk-about-the-war-on-people-of-color-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2039</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Theriomorph: I can&#039;t even bring myself to comment on any of the larger threads over at Feministe or Pandagon. And I find it interesting that there&#039;s no apologies being offered &lt;i&gt;until&lt;/i&gt; all the big-name white bloggers start demanding; and by interesting I mean fucked up. Clearly if Hugo finds racism, then it must &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; exist. 

And yep, you nailed it. This is more than about racist images in a book when those very images replicate themselves in real life for People of Color on the daily. I wish people could get that. 

Truth be told, I&#039;ve always liked Amanda. I think she&#039;s made some serious errors in judgment (like that &quot;killjoy&quot; comment over her first cover), but I felt that, despite her defensiveness, she was sincere in trying to learn. Not anymore. Not after she tried to make everything that&#039;s happened over the past two weeks a matter of her career, which as she herself admits is in no danger whatsoever. Nope. No more passes. At least not until I see something more substantial than, &quot;hey, I link to PoC all the time!&quot; 

An interesting parallel: I started out as a poetry blogger. That blog is now gone, but yep, I use to post about poetry and read daily mostly poetry bloggers. I eventually left the poetry blog scene for many of the same reasons that many Women of Color are now leaving Feminism. 

That said, I think a week of poetry blogging is a damn good idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Theriomorph: I can&#8217;t even bring myself to comment on any of the larger threads over at Feministe or Pandagon. And I find it interesting that there&#8217;s no apologies being offered <i>until</i> all the big-name white bloggers start demanding; and by interesting I mean fucked up. Clearly if Hugo finds racism, then it must <i>really</i> exist. </p>
<p>And yep, you nailed it. This is more than about racist images in a book when those very images replicate themselves in real life for People of Color on the daily. I wish people could get that. </p>
<p>Truth be told, I&#8217;ve always liked Amanda. I think she&#8217;s made some serious errors in judgment (like that &#8220;killjoy&#8221; comment over her first cover), but I felt that, despite her defensiveness, she was sincere in trying to learn. Not anymore. Not after she tried to make everything that&#8217;s happened over the past two weeks a matter of her career, which as she herself admits is in no danger whatsoever. Nope. No more passes. At least not until I see something more substantial than, &#8220;hey, I link to PoC all the time!&#8221; </p>
<p>An interesting parallel: I started out as a poetry blogger. That blog is now gone, but yep, I use to post about poetry and read daily mostly poetry bloggers. I eventually left the poetry blog scene for many of the same reasons that many Women of Color are now leaving Feminism. </p>
<p>That said, I think a week of poetry blogging is a damn good idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/25/when-i-talk-about-the-war-on-people-of-color-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@belledame222: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I really, really donâ€™t ever want to hear another â€œovert sexism is so much more acceptable than overt racism, therefore /Clinton Was Wobbed!/I/we win the Oppression Olympics, not that I/we believe in such a thing, but if I/we did/itâ€™s totally okay for me to say or do ___ because Iâ€™m/weâ€™re the one(s) who decides whatâ€™s REALLY offensive/harmful or notâ€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For reals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@belledame222: </p>
<blockquote><p>I really, really donâ€™t ever want to hear another â€œovert sexism is so much more acceptable than overt racism, therefore /Clinton Was Wobbed!/I/we win the Oppression Olympics, not that I/we believe in such a thing, but if I/we did/itâ€™s totally okay for me to say or do ___ because Iâ€™m/weâ€™re the one(s) who decides whatâ€™s REALLY offensive/harmful or notâ€</p></blockquote>
<p>For reals.</p>
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		<title>By: Theriomorph</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/25/when-i-talk-about-the-war-on-people-of-color-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Theriomorph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad belledame&#039;s still got some smackdown energy in the mix: despair and disgust with the online stuff has outweighed mine in this. As your final link illustrates as clearly as it can possibly be: this is not abstract shit, talking points to generate blog traffic. The complete disconnect from the fact that this is *real people&#039;s lives* is making me sick. I think I&#039;m going to do poetry all week; poetry of the kind that recognizes people&#039;s *lives*.

/ spew.

Glad you&#039;re here, Kevin. You seem to be able to keep it right to the point, and it&#039;s sanity-inducing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad belledame&#8217;s still got some smackdown energy in the mix: despair and disgust with the online stuff has outweighed mine in this. As your final link illustrates as clearly as it can possibly be: this is not abstract shit, talking points to generate blog traffic. The complete disconnect from the fact that this is *real people&#8217;s lives* is making me sick. I think I&#8217;m going to do poetry all week; poetry of the kind that recognizes people&#8217;s *lives*.</p>
<p>/ spew.</p>
<p>Glad you&#8217;re here, Kevin. You seem to be able to keep it right to the point, and it&#8217;s sanity-inducing.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2008/04/25/when-i-talk-about-the-war-on-people-of-color-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really, really don&#039;t ever want to hear another &quot;overt sexism is so much more acceptable than overt racism, therefore /Clinton Was Wobbed!/I/we win the Oppression Olympics, not that I/we believe in such a thing, but if I/we did/it&#039;s totally okay for me to say or do ___ because I&#039;m/we&#039;re the one(s) who decides what&#039;s REALLY offensive/harmful or not&quot;

...from any so-called &quot;progressive.&quot;  Like, ever again.  

And no, she said, pre-empting, I wouldn&#039;t be interested in the reverse -either-, and as soon as that argument seriously comes up among anyone in these circles, I&#039;ll be sure to smack it down also.  Meanwhile, back to -this- epic endless clusterfuck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really, really don&#8217;t ever want to hear another &#8220;overt sexism is so much more acceptable than overt racism, therefore /Clinton Was Wobbed!/I/we win the Oppression Olympics, not that I/we believe in such a thing, but if I/we did/it&#8217;s totally okay for me to say or do ___ because I&#8217;m/we&#8217;re the one(s) who decides what&#8217;s REALLY offensive/harmful or not&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;from any so-called &#8220;progressive.&#8221;  Like, ever again.  </p>
<p>And no, she said, pre-empting, I wouldn&#8217;t be interested in the reverse -either-, and as soon as that argument seriously comes up among anyone in these circles, I&#8217;ll be sure to smack it down also.  Meanwhile, back to -this- epic endless clusterfuck&#8230;</p>
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