Message to Partisan Democrats
Posted 16 April, 2008 at 10:27 pm by Kevin
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Please. Please people! Stop pretending like Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama are progressives. They aren’t! They are centrist Democratic politicians. Even calling either one of them liberal is a bit of a stretch. Favor who you please, but let’s not pretend that these people are anything other than what they are, ok? I’m not saying there’s anything implicitly wrong with being a centrist or moderate, but please, stop trying to convince me that one of the two potential Democratic Presidential nominees is progressive. It’s just not true.
Oh, and for the record, Partisan Democrats, many of those speaking on your behalf are most definitely not progressive, what with all the sexism and racism that they seem so comfortable spewing out. I’m just saying.
Signed,
Proud Independent Progressive
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Right on.
One of the things that never ceases to amaze me about this primary is how many people have gone COMPLETELY INSANE over two candidates that are, ya know, both good candidates, but are hardly the sort of progressive standard-bearers for whom I’d have expected the progressive blogosphere to reserve its most fervent passions.
Amen.
And you know, Melissa, there lies another blog post; what’s up with all of these folks that are saying they will vote for McCain if their candidate doesn’t make it? Really? Has politics come down to a revenge game like that? Or am I just naive and this is how it’s always been?
what’s up with all of these folks that are saying they will vote for McCain if their candidate doesn’t make it?
Don’t even get me started! Anyone who considers McCain a viable alternative to Clinton or Obama doesn’t have a functioning capacity to process basic information.
Intellectually, I can understand someone who supports one or the other going Green, for example, if their preferred candidate doesn’t win the nomination (at this point, I’m inclined to write in Al Gore myself, lol), but voting for McCain?! That’s just totally illogical. The only thing he shares in common with Hillary is his skin color, and the only thing he shares in common with Barack is male genitals, so I really and truly can’t imagine that a spite vote for McCain is motivated by anything but racism or sexism.
And now we’re back to your post…
“The only thing he shares in common with Hillary is his skin color, and the only thing he shares in common with Barack is male genitals, so I really and truly can’t imagine that a spite vote for McCain is motivated by anything but racism or sexism.”
And you are right. sigh…
YES! THANK YOU!
Hear, hear.
Thanks, K. It’s like someone dumped something in the liberal water supply these days.
I don’t get the revenge-vote thing, and I know you and everyone who says so are right about neither Obama or Clinton being progressive. It’s also true that I am trying to have some delusion about it. Although I talk very little, if at all, about this election, in my heart I am super sad that Clinton has turned out to be someone I find alienating, and I am so crushed-out on Michelle Obama after seeing her on the Colbert Report that I want her in the White House, period.
So. I do get why you’re frustrated, and intellectually I share it, but emotionally I don’t, and it’s because I am willfully trying to believe something that isn’t true. It’s crazy. “It” being me in this case I suppose, ahem.
Thank you, thank you. I have no idea why so many ostensibly sane people have completely lost their shit over this election.
Obama is a typical old school liberal Democrat, though I appreciate the fact he tells it like it is more so than most, I have no doubt he won’t do all of what I want about what it is he tells.
I don’t know what Clinton is, and don’t care, though of course I’d vote for her over McCain.
A progressive is not going to get elected in this country,fact. Too much praise Jesus going on here still - among other things.
That revenge vote is nutso as well as scary, especially considering it is being spewed by people who are presumable educated.
Success comes from the bottom bottom up. If you don’t start electing progressive candidates to the mayors offices, county seats, state legislatures, governorships, congress, senate….there will never be a truly progressive prez.
Y’know what Joan? I totally understand what you’re saying and I don’t think you’re “crazy” at all.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Hey RRP, I recognize you from that abomination of a thread over at Theriomorphs (no fault of hers, of course). Thanks for stopping by and I hope you return. I wonder though, is it that “so many ostensibly sane people have completely lost their shit over this election” or is it that “so many ostensibly sane people are now showing their true colors over this election”?
Kevin, I think I love you.
But then again, I get a bunch of horrified looks and gasps and lectures from people in both camps when I point out that there is no major difference in their policy positions, and that neither one is particularly progressive.
And I’ll crib what Chris pointed out in his blog: the idiots who are yelping about voting for McCain if the “other” dem gets the nomination? Oh, I wonder if they were the same people screeching at the folks who voted for Nader in 2000? ANYONE who’d vote for McCain as an alternative to a democratic candidate needs to GTFO out the party already. He’s a right-wing ideologue, regardless of the yelping of Ann Coulter et. al.
@Sheelzebub: *blushes*
And yep, I’ll bet the farm that the same folks that think voting for McCain is some sort of rebellious move are the same folks that went into a fit over Nader voters in 2000.