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		<title>By: Mudkips</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/15/feminist-bloggers-are-under-increasing-levels-of-attack/comment-page-3/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>Mudkips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart goes out to BB for the things she has gone through in her life. Nobody should have deal with abuse. Nobody should spend their lives in fear. I&#039;ve dealt with similar issues. That&#039;s what makes it hard for me to flame her now.

I love liberty. The constitution guarantees freedom of speech that in unencumbered by the government. BB enjoys that protection. So does Mr. anonymous. Getting booed off stage, getting impolite feedback for stupid, sexist comments...that is part of life, isn&#039;t it? 
Feminists have plenty of private boards to sound off on. Based on what I have read, it seems like she just shot her mouth off in the wrong forum.

A 13 year old having harangues about his sexual habits posted on a public forum is as offensive as any other form of pornography. And that&#039;s what it was. Exploitation of a child. Pure and simple. Her pain is regrettable but it should stop with her. Her son does not have the capacity to process the lifetime of pain she has had to bear. BB, have faith in what you have taught him. Let him try, and fail, with the knowledge that he has the unconditional love of at least one person in this long.

You call it a DOS attack, but the truth is that those comments pissed off A LOT of people. An acknowledgment of that fact would really prevent further incident IMHO. Not all anons are stupid kids. I fear her identity will be discovered eventually if she does not deflate the situation. Of course she loves her kids and wants what is best for them. She has the mind of an educator, and wants to make a better world.

If she went public again, disabled anonymous replies, explained her state of mind and maybe (gasp) said some positive things about her son, who knows?  Anon does not forgive, but he might move on, if there are no more lulz to be had.

The only other option is to retreat from public life. This would be a tragedy. BB has a unique perspective, and one I would leik to hear. But she did retreat, and now I have to post on here in the hopes she will read this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to BB for the things she has gone through in her life. Nobody should have deal with abuse. Nobody should spend their lives in fear. I&#8217;ve dealt with similar issues. That&#8217;s what makes it hard for me to flame her now.</p>
<p>I love liberty. The constitution guarantees freedom of speech that in unencumbered by the government. BB enjoys that protection. So does Mr. anonymous. Getting booed off stage, getting impolite feedback for stupid, sexist comments&#8230;that is part of life, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
Feminists have plenty of private boards to sound off on. Based on what I have read, it seems like she just shot her mouth off in the wrong forum.</p>
<p>A 13 year old having harangues about his sexual habits posted on a public forum is as offensive as any other form of pornography. And that&#8217;s what it was. Exploitation of a child. Pure and simple. Her pain is regrettable but it should stop with her. Her son does not have the capacity to process the lifetime of pain she has had to bear. BB, have faith in what you have taught him. Let him try, and fail, with the knowledge that he has the unconditional love of at least one person in this long.</p>
<p>You call it a DOS attack, but the truth is that those comments pissed off A LOT of people. An acknowledgment of that fact would really prevent further incident IMHO. Not all anons are stupid kids. I fear her identity will be discovered eventually if she does not deflate the situation. Of course she loves her kids and wants what is best for them. She has the mind of an educator, and wants to make a better world.</p>
<p>If she went public again, disabled anonymous replies, explained her state of mind and maybe (gasp) said some positive things about her son, who knows?  Anon does not forgive, but he might move on, if there are no more lulz to be had.</p>
<p>The only other option is to retreat from public life. This would be a tragedy. BB has a unique perspective, and one I would leik to hear. But she did retreat, and now I have to post on here in the hopes she will read this.</p>
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		<title>By: A spectator</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/15/feminist-bloggers-are-under-increasing-levels-of-attack/comment-page-3/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>A spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No actual bones broken, as far as I can tell...

That&#039;s what I figured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No actual bones broken, as far as I can tell&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I figured.</p>
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		<title>By: bint alshamsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>bint alshamsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I had no idea this conversation was still going on. Seeing as Anon has basically lost interest in this (as they always do eventually), I moved on but I suppose I should respond to what&#039;s been said to me since the last time I commented.

thebewilderness,

You may see the attacks against them as &quot;beside the point&quot; but those people are important &quot;right here, right now&quot; too. You asked me how many ways do I need to say it. Well, I guess that depends on how long your &quot;perp&quot; buddies continue to victimize women of color, women with disabilities, sex workers, and trans-gendered women because, you see, I &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; &quot;give a shit&quot;. I care about these women too much to just remain silent while folks like Heart and her pals threaten, harass, and endanger them.

So, if you want to talk about about the victims, let&#039;s talk about them instead of wasting time crying for all of the world&#039;s bullies who have finally met their match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I had no idea this conversation was still going on. Seeing as Anon has basically lost interest in this (as they always do eventually), I moved on but I suppose I should respond to what&#8217;s been said to me since the last time I commented.</p>
<p>thebewilderness,</p>
<p>You may see the attacks against them as &#8220;beside the point&#8221; but those people are important &#8220;right here, right now&#8221; too. You asked me how many ways do I need to say it. Well, I guess that depends on how long your &#8220;perp&#8221; buddies continue to victimize women of color, women with disabilities, sex workers, and trans-gendered women because, you see, I <b>do</b> &#8220;give a shit&#8221;. I care about these women too much to just remain silent while folks like Heart and her pals threaten, harass, and endanger them.</p>
<p>So, if you want to talk about about the victims, let&#8217;s talk about them instead of wasting time crying for all of the world&#8217;s bullies who have finally met their match.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullifidian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nullifidian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nullifidian: Do you consider every piece of pornography spam you get in your email to be considered sexual harassment? Do you report every incident to the local or federal authorities? By your logic, you should!&lt;/i&gt;

Uh. No.

First of all, nothing I&#039;ve said is based on principles which are mine alone. In fact, I&#039;ve simply been pointing out that threatening rape and death is a violation of federal law.

In this context, the law recognizes a difference between death threats and spam (although spammers can have criminal charges thrown their way for other things).

&lt;i&gt;Perhaps you will one day realize you are putting too much stock into a completely hollow gesture.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think so. If you think that misogyny is funny, then you are a misogynist. If you think racism is funny, then you are a racist. Hiding behind amorality is no excuse; it just makes you a Little Eichmann.

&lt;i&gt;If I go to some website or blog completely at random, regardless of the topic or purpose, and I post â€œILL KILL U BITCHâ€ as a comment to the latest entry by them, is that a death threat? By the to-the-letter, text book definition of it that you provided, maybe.&lt;/i&gt;

And that&#039;s the definition that&#039;s going to form the basis of a criminal case in federal court.

&lt;i&gt;But am I actually threatening them, do I actually have intent, purpose, or an ounce of desire for the person to die? No, thatâ€™s retarded!&lt;/i&gt;

How do we know? That&#039;s the nature of these sort of anonymous internet death threats. One can blow them off, but they might be genuine. The internet is not blessed with a mind-reading functionality.

&lt;i&gt;It has been said so many times that it is almost routine to type at this point. Anonymous does not care about you, your ideals, who you are or what you believe.&lt;/i&gt;

And by the same token, I don&#039;t give a shit about Anonymous. I don&#039;t care about their motivations, I don&#039;t care about their ideals or lack thereof, I only care about what they do. And what they are doing is illegal and abhorrent. If you&#039;re going to make it okay to ignore the ideals and opinions of your targets, don&#039;t whine to me that I&#039;m just not getting you because I focus on what you do, rather than what you say you&#039;re after. I don&#039;t give a damn what you&#039;re after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nullifidian: Do you consider every piece of pornography spam you get in your email to be considered sexual harassment? Do you report every incident to the local or federal authorities? By your logic, you should!</i></p>
<p>Uh. No.</p>
<p>First of all, nothing I&#8217;ve said is based on principles which are mine alone. In fact, I&#8217;ve simply been pointing out that threatening rape and death is a violation of federal law.</p>
<p>In this context, the law recognizes a difference between death threats and spam (although spammers can have criminal charges thrown their way for other things).</p>
<p><i>Perhaps you will one day realize you are putting too much stock into a completely hollow gesture.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so. If you think that misogyny is funny, then you are a misogynist. If you think racism is funny, then you are a racist. Hiding behind amorality is no excuse; it just makes you a Little Eichmann.</p>
<p><i>If I go to some website or blog completely at random, regardless of the topic or purpose, and I post â€œILL KILL U BITCHâ€ as a comment to the latest entry by them, is that a death threat? By the to-the-letter, text book definition of it that you provided, maybe.</i></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the definition that&#8217;s going to form the basis of a criminal case in federal court.</p>
<p><i>But am I actually threatening them, do I actually have intent, purpose, or an ounce of desire for the person to die? No, thatâ€™s retarded!</i></p>
<p>How do we know? That&#8217;s the nature of these sort of anonymous internet death threats. One can blow them off, but they might be genuine. The internet is not blessed with a mind-reading functionality.</p>
<p><i>It has been said so many times that it is almost routine to type at this point. Anonymous does not care about you, your ideals, who you are or what you believe.</i></p>
<p>And by the same token, I don&#8217;t give a shit about Anonymous. I don&#8217;t care about their motivations, I don&#8217;t care about their ideals or lack thereof, I only care about what they do. And what they are doing is illegal and abhorrent. If you&#8217;re going to make it okay to ignore the ideals and opinions of your targets, don&#8217;t whine to me that I&#8217;m just not getting you because I focus on what you do, rather than what you say you&#8217;re after. I don&#8217;t give a damn what you&#8217;re after.</p>
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		<title>By: ED Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>ED Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, if you take a look back, Sheelzebub has contributed nothing other than Easy Mode sarcastic responses or wild retorts to at-a-glance readings of others&#039; responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, if you take a look back, Sheelzebub has contributed nothing other than Easy Mode sarcastic responses or wild retorts to at-a-glance readings of others&#8217; responses.</p>
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		<title>By: A spectator</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/15/feminist-bloggers-are-under-increasing-levels-of-attack/comment-page-3/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>A spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah, so much for that. Think you might be projecting a bit there, kiddo.&quot;

Do you actually have something to discuss, or are you just here to indulge in cheap pot-shots? Any moron can do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, so much for that. Think you might be projecting a bit there, kiddo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you actually have something to discuss, or are you just here to indulge in cheap pot-shots? Any moron can do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheelzebub</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/15/feminist-bloggers-are-under-increasing-levels-of-attack/comment-page-3/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheelzebub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wonâ€™t bother responding to it. . .&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, so much for that. Think you might be projecting a bit there, kiddo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I wonâ€™t bother responding to it. . .</i></p>
<p>Yeah, so much for that. Think you might be projecting a bit there, kiddo.</p>
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		<title>By: A spectator</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/15/feminist-bloggers-are-under-increasing-levels-of-attack/comment-page-3/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>A spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeham

And in reality they sometimes do. Sorry that doesn&#039;t  jibe with your dogma.

&quot;Perp talk.&quot;

Jackass talk. You sound just like one of the more juvenile Anonymous. Lmfao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeham</p>
<p>And in reality they sometimes do. Sorry that doesn&#8217;t  jibe with your dogma.</p>
<p>&#8220;Perp talk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jackass talk. You sound just like one of the more juvenile Anonymous. Lmfao.</p>
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		<title>By: thebewilderness</title>
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		<dc:creator>thebewilderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A spectator,
Had you made an intelligent argument, I&#039;m sure it would have been responded to in kind. Instead you said this: In reality victims DO sometimes call abuse to themselves...

Perp talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A spectator,<br />
Had you made an intelligent argument, I&#8217;m sure it would have been responded to in kind. Instead you said this: In reality victims DO sometimes call abuse to themselves&#8230;</p>
<p>Perp talk.</p>
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		<title>By: A spectator</title>
		<link>http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/15/feminist-bloggers-are-under-increasing-levels-of-attack/comment-page-3/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>A spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 05:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeham

Your childish deliberate misreading and distortion of my comments doesn&#039;t really rate a detailed response. I&#039;m sure any reasonably intelligent adult can read my previous comments without coming away with the idiotic notion that I think there is something wrong with telling your kids that raping and killing women is bad. The most generous assumption is that this was a silly attempt to provoke an emotional response from me.

If you can&#039;t even make an effort to address my arguments intelligently don&#039;t expect me to waste my time dealing with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeham</p>
<p>Your childish deliberate misreading and distortion of my comments doesn&#8217;t really rate a detailed response. I&#8217;m sure any reasonably intelligent adult can read my previous comments without coming away with the idiotic notion that I think there is something wrong with telling your kids that raping and killing women is bad. The most generous assumption is that this was a silly attempt to provoke an emotional response from me.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t even make an effort to address my arguments intelligently don&#8217;t expect me to waste my time dealing with you.</p>
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