Comments on: Jena Six Updates http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:35:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Thin Black Duke http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-2/#comment-657 Thin Black Duke Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:50:39 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-657 I love it when you jackasses come to a site that you've obviously never been to before and, before anyone even responds to you, you declare how you just KNOW that you will be deleted because the truth you speak is just too hard for us poor misguided souls. Sorry, Peter, but I prefer to let your comment stand so that all can read your bullshit and hopefully learn from it. But I also hate to disappoint. So, I must add: You're a racist. And while I'm at it, let me school you on a few things. 1) "People" are not "sick about hearing the constant whining about perceived racial issues." White racist people are sick about hearing the constant complaints about actual racial issues. 2) Um, sorry, but hanging a noose is not a "simple act of hanging a rope from a tree." It's a threat, a threat that most black folks understand immediately. 3) No one has said that the Jena Six shouldn't be held responsible for their actions. What is being argued is that when white folks in Jena commit equal crimes, they get probation, while the black folks get charged with attempted murder. I'd ask you to explain why this is reasonable, but you won't be able to answer me since I'm about to close comments on this thread. 4) Jackson and Sharpton were late to the game. They jumped on this months after the grassroots bloggers had made an impact. For you to bring them up shows that you have no idea about the activism behind the Jena Six Cause. You had no idea about any of this on 2 August, when I posted this. And now you come here, two months late to the game, and want to talk shit about how we're all kowtowing to them? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 5) In case you missed it; you're a racist. And with that, this thread is closed. I'm sick of it. You can go to your own blogs and write your racist bullshit there. I love it when you jackasses come to a site that you’ve obviously never been to before and, before anyone even responds to you, you declare how you just KNOW that you will be deleted because the truth you speak is just too hard for us poor misguided souls.

Sorry, Peter, but I prefer to let your comment stand so that all can read your bullshit and hopefully learn from it.

But I also hate to disappoint. So, I must add:

You’re a racist.

And while I’m at it, let me school you on a few things.

1) “People” are not “sick about hearing the constant whining about perceived racial issues.” White racist people are sick about hearing the constant complaints about actual racial issues.

2) Um, sorry, but hanging a noose is not a “simple act of hanging a rope from a tree.” It’s a threat, a threat that most black folks understand immediately.

3) No one has said that the Jena Six shouldn’t be held responsible for their actions. What is being argued is that when white folks in Jena commit equal crimes, they get probation, while the black folks get charged with attempted murder. I’d ask you to explain why this is reasonable, but you won’t be able to answer me since I’m about to close comments on this thread.

4) Jackson and Sharpton were late to the game. They jumped on this months after the grassroots bloggers had made an impact. For you to bring them up shows that you have no idea about the activism behind the Jena Six Cause. You had no idea about any of this on 2 August, when I posted this. And now you come here, two months late to the game, and want to talk shit about how we’re all kowtowing to them? You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

5) In case you missed it; you’re a racist.

And with that, this thread is closed. I’m sick of it. You can go to your own blogs and write your racist bullshit there.

]]> By: Peter http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-2/#comment-654 Peter Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:49:38 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-654 I can't believe all the racist tripe and ignorance by most of the comments left here. Black this and black that...blah blah blah. People are sick about hearing the constant whining about perceived racial issues. First, the simple act of hanging rope from a tree is not a crime, nor should it be, in Louisiana or any other state. The prosecutor in Louisiana has stated this much. Secondly, these six should be punished for what they did and they will be by a judge or jury. It's amazing how blinded by emotion people become when some race pimping spiritual maggot like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton cry foul. It's my opinion that the people that demonstrated in Jena and many of the posters here are the true racists. Here's fact: racism will always exist. Some blacks are racist and so are some whites and everything in between. Deal with it. I don't have to like you because you’re white or because you’re black. It's how we respond and deal with racism that will determine if it continues. Stop looking at skin color and look at your fellow human being. Don't let your emotion rule you. Think and then act. Now we’ll see if my post is removed or how many people call me a racist. Look in the mirror. I can’t believe all the racist tripe and ignorance by most of the comments left here. Black this and black that…blah blah blah. People are sick about hearing the constant whining about perceived racial issues. First, the simple act of hanging rope from a tree is not a crime, nor should it be, in Louisiana or any other state. The prosecutor in Louisiana has stated this much. Secondly, these six should be punished for what they did and they will be by a judge or jury. It’s amazing how blinded by emotion people become when some race pimping spiritual maggot like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton cry foul. It’s my opinion that the people that demonstrated in Jena and many of the posters here are the true racists. Here’s fact: racism will always exist. Some blacks are racist and so are some whites and everything in between. Deal with it. I don’t have to like you because you’re white or because you’re black. It’s how we respond and deal with racism that will determine if it continues. Stop looking at skin color and look at your fellow human being. Don’t let your emotion rule you. Think and then act. Now we’ll see if my post is removed or how many people call me a racist. Look in the mirror.

]]> By: doforself http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-622 doforself Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:58:49 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-622 what is going on with the case in virginia, where a young black woman was brutally abused while being held captive by a group of white male and white women. my understanding is that she survived the brutality, and the accused are in custody. Any one with an update? what is going on with the case in virginia, where a young black woman was brutally abused while being held captive by a group of white male and white women. my understanding is that she survived the brutality, and the accused are in custody. Any one with an update?

]]> By: john mitchell http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-613 john mitchell Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:49:44 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-613 look they were "baited" it to a fight , but at the same time they should have reported the noose incedent to the school staff and the police to log a complaint. fighting has done nothing but cause trouble. after everyone leaves jena they should go to Virginia were a white boy was beat by 5 black boys because he was white. his civil rights were abused just like the blacks in jena. fair play is warrented look they were “baited” it to a fight , but at the same time they should have reported the noose incedent to the school staff and the police to log a complaint. fighting has done nothing but cause trouble. after everyone leaves jena they should go to Virginia were a white boy was beat by 5 black boys because he was white. his civil rights were abused just like the blacks in jena.
fair play is warrented

]]> By: doforself http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-580 doforself Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:15:41 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-580 Black Panther Party was intended in the aforementioned comment. Black Panther Party was intended in the aforementioned comment.

]]> By: doforself http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-579 doforself Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:12:34 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-579 how many of you out there remember james bryd. For those who dont he was the blackman that was dragged onthe back of a truck until dead, by a small group of white men in Texas. This case could have used the noose for the murderers. Hey mike Black folks didnt write the Jim Crow laws of the early 1900s. It appears that the Jim Crow law is alive and well in the so called new south. Mike explain to me how a Blackman in Amerika earning 100k per year with good credit pay a higher interest rate than a white man earning 40k per year with good credit. Blacks should wake up and hold onto that 800,000,000,000 that they spend every year. Thats a lot of money that go's into the GNP. 90 days off from spending that 800b would get better results than complaining. Id bet this would get white amerika's attention.Maybe then they would put forth the effort to get rid of the hate groups and Amerikkkan terrorists, like they did to get rid of the Black Party (who set up programs to feed hungry children). how many of you out there remember james bryd. For those who dont he was the blackman that was dragged onthe back of a truck until dead, by a small group of white men in Texas. This case could have used the noose for the murderers. Hey mike Black folks didnt write the Jim Crow laws of the early 1900s. It appears that the Jim Crow law is alive and well in the so called new south. Mike explain to me how a Blackman in Amerika earning 100k per year with good credit pay a higher interest rate than a white man earning 40k per year with good credit. Blacks should wake up and hold onto that 800,000,000,000 that they spend every year. Thats a lot of money that go’s into the GNP. 90 days off from spending that 800b would get better results than complaining. Id bet this would get white amerika’s attention.Maybe then they would put forth the effort to get rid of the hate groups and Amerikkkan terrorists, like they did to get rid of the Black Party (who set up programs to feed hungry children).

]]> By: Myself http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-577 Myself Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:23:24 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-577 Boys with dad's are less likely to be in trouble. I'm sure there's a "study" or just common sense to back that up. That's why Bell's father is important. Institutionalized racism, is that in Detroit? Worst city in America is always in debate but the others would be D.C., East St. Louis and Oakland. All victims of institutionalize racism? One organization today has at it's beginning in Institutional Racism - Planned Parenthood. Margaret Sanger's racism and speaking at Klan meetings is well documented. Blacks are 16% the population and 30-40% abortion rate. There's an institution for you. 90% of all black deaths are from ----black people. Probably from young men without fathers. African-Americans deserve to be treated as equals not little children who have to be taken care of by big strong white liberals. Mycheal Bell doesn't deserve to be convicted of attempted murder but he also doesn't deserve to grow up without a dad thanks to a government that rewards out of wedlock birth. He doesn't deserve people like Al and Jesse making money off him by using this as a PR opportunity. When will the march in Detroit occur or the protest to stop the deaths of black man every day because of drugs and music that glorifies violence? Ok, now the guy from Seattle can dominate the discussion. Boys with dad’s are less likely to be in trouble. I’m sure there’s a “study” or just common sense to back that up. That’s why Bell’s father is important. Institutionalized racism, is that in Detroit? Worst city in America is always in debate but the others would be D.C., East St. Louis and Oakland. All victims of institutionalize racism? One organization today has at it’s beginning in Institutional Racism – Planned Parenthood. Margaret Sanger’s racism and speaking at Klan meetings is well documented. Blacks are 16% the population and 30-40% abortion rate. There’s an institution for you. 90% of all black deaths are from —-black people. Probably from young men without fathers. African-Americans deserve to be treated as equals not little children who have to be taken care of by big strong white liberals. Mycheal Bell doesn’t deserve to be convicted of attempted murder but he also doesn’t deserve to grow up without a dad thanks to a government that rewards out of wedlock birth. He doesn’t deserve people like Al and Jesse making money off him by using this as a PR opportunity. When will the march in Detroit occur or the protest to stop the deaths of black man every day because of drugs and music that glorifies violence? Ok, now the guy from Seattle can dominate the discussion.

]]> By: Michael http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-572 Michael Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:58:52 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-572 Many white people know that Elvis appeared to them on a burnt piece of toast. (I almost bought it on Ebay but it went up to $20. I settled for a grilled cheese sandwich with a very well endowed bust of the Virgin Mary.) I made some very, I believe, compelling points. Please don't appeal to me with the wisdom of the masses in general. Every time you ask the audience a hard question on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" they get it wrong. Many white people know that Elvis appeared to them on a burnt piece of toast. (I almost bought it on Ebay but it went up to $20. I settled for a grilled cheese sandwich with a very well endowed bust of the Virgin Mary.)
I made some very, I believe, compelling points. Please don’t appeal to me with the wisdom of the masses in general.
Every time you ask the audience a hard question on “Who Wants to be a Millionaire” they get it wrong.

]]> By: Eric Stoller http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-568 Eric Stoller Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:24:40 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-568 @ Michael - Many WHITE people know that in America TODAY there is a lot of institutionalized racism. White people who deny the existence of institutionalized racism actually perpetuate it. @ Michael -
Many WHITE people know that in America TODAY there is a lot of institutionalized racism. White people who deny the existence of institutionalized racism actually perpetuate it.

]]> By: Michael http://slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-561 Michael Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:41:46 +0000 http://www.slanttruth.com/2007/08/02/jena-six-updates/#comment-561 I write a lot of lengthy comments on a lot of subjects on a lot of sites about things I find extremely important. Seldom does ayone actually seem to read any comment if it's more than a few words. This is sad to me, and I think it illustrates how little real thought too many people put into things. I, personally, think people should read entire books on important subjects, so a few paragraphs is really not much to read to obtain another perspective. This being the case, I will write one more thing I believe may illuminate something that seems all objective observation seems to indicate. It seems as if many black people have the idea that in America TODAY there is a lot of institutionalized racism. I would like to give a white person's perspective on this. I was born in 1968. From the earliest I can remember, in school, in movies, in books, in MY home, in all aspects of society there WAS some institutionalized message put forth. In the movie Roots that was broadcast to all of America, in movies and books about Martin Luther King and Malcom X, in movies and books and essays written in school, taught in classes and discussed in every forum that exists there WAS one message put forth. This message was the opposite of the one that is somehow perceived by many black Americans as being disseminated among whites. You are WRONG that there is institutionalized racism against blacks as some thread invisibly woven through all white culture. Maybe in the 1950s, I did not live in the 1950s. But today the overwhelming, the OVERWHELMING thread woven through the fabric of white America is of every lesson that any man or woman can speak or write against every aspect of inequality or racism that ever existed. Are there some racist white people TODAY? Sure there are. If you don't KNOW that till the end of time there will be racists and dumbasss and idiots among all races in all countries then you have no idea about what has transpired since man had begun recording history. But is white racism against blacks institutionalized in our country TODAY?! No man, quite the opposite. You know what makes white people, among other white people, shake their heads and question aspects of some who are black in society? What black people do and say in our society. Man, if someone is going to judge me on what I say and do I am friggen happy with that. Then I have no worries about how I am perceived by anyone else. The entire point I have been trying to convey in all I have said is that objective observation indicates very strongly that many or most white people in America TODAY (not the fucking 50s or any other time) judge black Americans by what they do and say and NOT their color. Objective observation of many of the words and actions of many black Americans further strongly indicates that many black Americans perceive, and share among themselves, the notion that there is a thread of institutionalized racism running through the fabric of white America TODAY. I'm white, THERE ISN'T! It's in your heads! White Americans in society TODAY are taught the same messages YOU are taught in movies and school and everywhere. We don't have different books and movies for US. I know, I know, I know: read THIS book, look at THESE movies, see THIS subtle message, note how THIS passage is phrased. You seem like an ok white guy, but you JUST don't see what we see... I see. Again, don't expect all racism to drop off the planet forever anytime, ever. Don't expect perfection in just about anything manmade anytime, ever. Heck, I have been searching for the perfect blowjob for almost 39 years and I have YET to find THAT. And I think that's very achievable... White society is IN the same society YOU live in. Racism, sure yeah - always be. But woven through the fabric of all white America as an institutionalized root? THE OPPOSITE! If any black person farts indignantly 50 million white people, including most of California, rush to smell it so they can not be thought of as anything other than ignorant or racist. READ what white people write everywhere about this subject. Nooses bad -SURE! Fair trial for everyone regardless of race -YES! What are "white people" angry about? Those six black kids stomped on the unconscious head of a white kid and they don't think they are bastions of equality! But because of the thread of institutionalized racism running through the black community, some black people (led by people like Al Sharpton) RUSH to the site of any nefarious, questionable happening and claim it's all part of the great white lie... People, it's all part of the aspect of THIS life that says just as there will always be the opposite, there will always be racism. But is that institutionalized TODAY through all of white society? Only because you make it so. Does the struggle for civil rights and equality and everything nice and flowery smelling need to continue? Sure! Forever men should strive for the BEST in mankind and struggle against the worst. But people like Al Sharpton make everything into ONE SINGLE BATTLE - black against white. No matter how questionable the circumstance... According to many black people's thinking: "Your comment on the the “biggest threat to equality and civil rights” is quite whitecentric. " "As for your comments about the oppression suffered by the Jews, Irish, Germans, etc…this is clearly a joke." "It’s not your fault your relatives hung a black man and cut his nuts off" Martin Luther King Jr made this argument before me, this is YOUR lie, not mine. No human being should dismiss the suffering of others as a joke, this is YOUR lie, not mine. You don't know my family, and what you said is YOUR lie, not mine. Look, if there is something I'm not seeing, YOU tell me. I will listen and consider it. I devote an inordinate amount of time to thinking and considering as many aspects of any subject as I can. I could write a book right here and now on this page, and I am willing to and read a book of your thoughts back. I challenge you to devote even AS MUCH thought and attention to this subject as I am, consider what I have written as another perspective that I am not sure you have adequately considered. If you are unwilling, HERE, NOW, to devote as much of your mind as I am, then your short and unrepeated cries for my consideration are not worth any more of my consideration. I write a lot of lengthy comments on a lot of subjects on a lot of sites about things I find extremely important. Seldom does ayone actually seem to read any comment if it’s more than a few words. This is sad to me, and I think it illustrates how little real thought too many people put into things. I, personally, think people should read entire books on important subjects, so a few paragraphs is really not much to read to obtain another perspective. This being the case, I will write one more thing I believe may illuminate something that seems all objective observation seems to indicate.

It seems as if many black people have the idea that in America TODAY there is a lot of institutionalized racism. I would like to give a white person’s perspective on this.

I was born in 1968. From the earliest I can remember, in school, in movies, in books, in MY home, in all aspects of society there WAS some institutionalized message put forth. In the movie Roots that was broadcast to all of America, in movies and books about Martin Luther King and Malcom X, in movies and books and essays written in school, taught in classes and discussed in every forum that exists there WAS one message put forth. This message was the opposite of the one that is somehow perceived by many black Americans as being disseminated among whites. You are WRONG that there is institutionalized racism against blacks as some thread invisibly woven through all white culture. Maybe in the 1950s, I did not live in the 1950s. But today the overwhelming, the OVERWHELMING thread woven through the fabric of white America is of every lesson that any man or woman can speak or write against every aspect of inequality or racism that ever existed.

Are there some racist white people TODAY? Sure there are. If you don’t KNOW that till the end of time there will be racists and dumbasss and idiots among all races in all countries then you have no idea about what has transpired since man had begun recording history. But is white racism against blacks institutionalized in our country TODAY?! No man, quite the opposite.

You know what makes white people, among other white people, shake their heads and question aspects of some who are black in society? What black people do and say in our society. Man, if someone is going to judge me on what I say and do I am friggen happy with that. Then I have no worries about how I am perceived by anyone else.

The entire point I have been trying to convey in all I have said is that objective observation indicates very strongly that many or most white people in America TODAY (not the fucking 50s or any other time) judge black Americans by what they do and say and NOT their color. Objective observation of many of the words and actions of many black Americans further strongly indicates that many black Americans perceive, and share among themselves, the notion that there is a thread of institutionalized racism running through the fabric of white America TODAY. I’m white, THERE ISN’T! It’s in your heads! White Americans in society TODAY are taught the same messages YOU are taught in movies and school and everywhere. We don’t have different books and movies for US.
I know, I know, I know: read THIS book, look at THESE movies, see THIS subtle message, note how THIS passage is phrased. You seem like an ok white guy, but you JUST don’t see what we see… I see. Again, don’t expect all racism to drop off the planet forever anytime, ever. Don’t expect perfection in just about anything manmade anytime, ever. Heck, I have been searching for the perfect blowjob for almost 39 years and I have YET to find THAT. And I think that’s very achievable…

White society is IN the same society YOU live in. Racism, sure yeah – always be. But woven through the fabric of all white America as an institutionalized root? THE OPPOSITE! If any black person farts indignantly 50 million white people, including most of California, rush to smell it so they can not be thought of as anything other than ignorant or racist.

READ what white people write everywhere about this subject. Nooses bad -SURE! Fair trial for everyone regardless of race -YES! What are “white people” angry about? Those six black kids stomped on the unconscious head of a white kid and they don’t think they are bastions of equality! But because of the thread of institutionalized racism running through the black community, some black people (led by people like Al Sharpton) RUSH to the site of any nefarious, questionable happening and claim it’s all part of the great white lie… People, it’s all part of the aspect of THIS life that says just as there will always be the opposite, there will always be racism. But is that institutionalized TODAY through all of white society? Only because you make it so.

Does the struggle for civil rights and equality and everything nice and flowery smelling need to continue? Sure! Forever men should strive for the BEST in mankind and struggle against the worst. But people like Al Sharpton make everything into ONE SINGLE BATTLE – black against white. No matter how questionable the circumstance…

According to many black people’s thinking: “Your comment on the the “biggest threat to equality and civil rights” is quite whitecentric. ” “As for your comments about the oppression suffered by the Jews, Irish, Germans, etc…this is clearly a joke.” “It’s not your fault your relatives hung a black man and cut his nuts off”

Martin Luther King Jr made this argument before me, this is YOUR lie, not mine.
No human being should dismiss the suffering of others as a joke, this is YOUR lie, not mine.
You don’t know my family, and what you said is YOUR lie, not mine.

Look, if there is something I’m not seeing, YOU tell me. I will listen and consider it. I devote an inordinate amount of time to thinking and considering as many aspects of any subject as I can. I could write a book right here and now on this page, and I am willing to and read a book of your thoughts back. I challenge you to devote even AS MUCH thought and attention to this subject as I am, consider what I have written as another perspective that I am not sure you have adequately considered. If you are unwilling, HERE, NOW, to devote as much of your mind as I am, then your short and unrepeated cries for my consideration are not worth any more of my consideration.

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